The Francis Effect podcast: Anti-trans policies; Thich Nhat Hanh; winter break

People attend a rally in support of transgender rights in Los Angeles Oct. 20, 2021. (CNS photo/Mario Anzuoni, Reuters)

People attend a rally in support of transgender rights in Los Angeles Oct. 20, 2021. (CNS photo/Mario Anzuoni, Reuters)

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NCR executive editor Heidi Schlumpf is part of the new season of "The Francis Effect" podcast, joining co-hosts Franciscan Fr. Daniel Horan (columnist for NCR) and David Dault, executive producer and host of "Things Not Seen: Conversations about Culture and Faith."

In this episode, hosts Father Daniel, Heidi and David discuss what happened to each of them between seasons; the legacy of Buddhist monk Thich Nhat Hanh; and the impact of recent state bills and diocesan policies on the dignity and well-being of transgender persons.

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